It is currently Sun May 19, 2013 1:43 pm
Click for great offers from SealeyClick for great deals from CFS
Click for the 2011 PPC 999 Challenge at Stanta PodClick for great deals from Silverline
Click for a great subscription offer PPC Mag Current Issue

Morris Minor flat four.

wild car/engine combo's? grab a badgers milk and a jaffa then tell the gang here

Postby ACE » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:05 am

The Morris minoor was designed by Alec Issigonis (Sir Alexander Arnold Constantine Issigonis, CBE, FRS) with a flat 4 engine, Morris wouldn't pay the development costs, so a straight 4 was fitted (918 ccside-valve straight-4 to 1952, 918 cc A series 1952 to 56, 948 cc A series 1956 to 71).
So why not rebuild it the way it was intended?

Moggy Minor + Subaru flat 4 engine, maybe a Forrester 2.5 turbo?
I'd go mad and uprate the brakes, the rear axle and maybe other stuff too.
ACE
 
Posts: 288
Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 6:30 pm

Postby Relentless Rob » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:45 pm

That was Will's bath idea a few years ago I believe it's been done as well. :)
User avatar
Relentless Rob
 
Posts: 5154
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:24 am
Location: Norfolk

Postby mitsuru » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:21 pm

Relentless Rob wrote:That was Will's bath idea a few years ago I believe it's been done as well. :)

Now that would be something to see, and for him to get ideas to take it further!
Pictures please!
User avatar
mitsuru
 
Posts: 1178
Joined: Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:39 pm
Location: County Durham Coast

Postby Relentless Rob » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:16 pm

Had a quick Google about and can't find one even in Australia (where they're allowed to be a bit more bonkers than we are). It's been discussed on several forums but it doesn't appear to have happened yet. The general feeling is it would need to remain rear wheel drive unless it's a straight WRX floor with a Minor body conversion. Like the MK1 Escort featured a few months ago. Even if you modify the front to take a cross member you'd need to re-enforce the chassis and that level of alteration would be IVA/SVA territory making it less practical for a hobbyist to take on. The costs to get someone like Wisbech Engineering to do it would be out of most people's reach.

The 200SX powered Morris Minor feature car is the closest anyone's got to it. I can't remember when I was told it had been done but it turns out the person who told me was full of crap and sadly I've passed that crap on to you guys. Sorry I should have checked my sources.

For the costs involved and amount of work I guess it hasn't been done in favor of a cheaper/faster/quicker V8 or other J-Tuner donor alternative.

So it would be breaking new ground that a lot of people have considered.

Now get on a build it. ;)

It would be something for one of Will's bath ideas to make it as a feature. I'm sure in a shed somewhere someone's doing one. :)
User avatar
Relentless Rob
 
Posts: 5154
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:24 am
Location: Norfolk

Postby fha772 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:41 pm

It has been done, I think it was featured in Retro Cars(but we don't talk about that...), I think it used the full AWD Subaru running gear, in the Minor.
It was about 18 months to 2 years ago when I saw it, but it has definately been done.
I remember it, because I didn't realise the Minor was designed for a Boxer engine, until I read about the Subaru powered 1.
User avatar
fha772
 
Posts: 4947
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:27 pm
Location: Matlock-Bath, Derbyshire, United Kingdom

Postby mjslonergan » Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:02 pm

I concur, the last few memory cells have a little shadow of recollection of having seen it in pics...
User avatar
mjslonergan
 
Posts: 1353
Joined: Tue May 18, 2010 1:19 am
Location: Ireland

Postby Relentless Rob » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:54 pm

fha772 wrote:It has been done, I think it was featured in Retro Cars(but we don't talk about that...), I think it used the full AWD Subaru running gear, in the Minor.


Ah-ha! I'm not going mental. Retro cars; no wonder it isn't on the web. They still point at planes in that office. ;)
User avatar
Relentless Rob
 
Posts: 5154
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:24 am
Location: Norfolk

Postby fha772 » Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:59 pm

I vaguely remember the pictures of it, I'm sure it was a dark colour (blue or grey), and the static photos were taken outside a cafe or pub, with the car's owner sat at a table with an umbrella chatting to a waitress.
User avatar
fha772
 
Posts: 4947
Joined: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:27 pm
Location: Matlock-Bath, Derbyshire, United Kingdom

Postby mjslonergan » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:47 pm

fha772 wrote:chatting to a waitress.

I think I remember her :lol:
User avatar
mjslonergan
 
Posts: 1353
Joined: Tue May 18, 2010 1:19 am
Location: Ireland

Postby Mr Bounce » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:23 pm

I seem to remember it was in their "Projects" section. I know it wasn't finished though...
User avatar
Mr Bounce
 
Posts: 246
Joined: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:38 pm
Location: The Murder Capital of Suffolk

Postby Neil Davies » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:47 pm

I've seen an Alfa flat four powered van at some of the classic shows at Malvern. As a fan of the "drier" variety of flat fours, it did make me do a double take!
Neil Davies
 
Posts: 47
Joined: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:53 am
Location: United Kingdom


Return to In the Bath: Had any wild thoughts in the bath?

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

Practical Performance Car (PPC) magazine, a monthly publication aimed at real car enthusiasts, with real-world cars. At PPC we pride ourselves in providing the most entertaining, informative and inspiring features for petrolheads everywhere. Each month we feature an eclectic mix of affordable performance cars, great driving adventures and world-class technical features for the DIY tuner.

Everyone who works on the magazine is a dyed-in-the-wool car enthusiast and this is reflected in the cars we drive and the topics we write about. Whether it be fast road, track-day or grass roots motorsport you’ll find it in PPC. Our editorial team is headed up by well known editor Will Holman. Will has a deserved reputation for his ’stick a V8 under the bonnet’ attitude to life and has had (and crashed/ had stolen/ rusted away) enough cars to fill a monthly magazine on his own. His editorial team is stacked with experience with the likes of Dave Walker (speciality engine management), of the sadly-missed Car and Car Conversions magazine, David Vizard, the legendary engine tuning guru, and Kevin Leaper (speciality buying cars in pubs) – ex technical editor of Practical Classics. Have a look at the Staff Cars and features to give you a flavour of PPC but for the real thing get along to your local WH Smiths or independent newsagent. PPC is on sale on the last Thursday of every month.